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proven to be true. if this is the new cia approach under director john brennan, then thank you, director john brennan. if in your life people believe you when you talk, it is a sign of credibility well earned and in some ways of a life well lived. same goes for government. if you are in public service, try to leave government more credible than how you found it when you got there. telling us what exactly the nsa does might be a nice next step, you guys. now it's time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. have a great night. today began with ted cruz's senate press secretary trying to deny that the senator has ever been a canadian citizen. and just minutes ago ted cruz was forced to announce that he will officially renounce his canadian citizenship that his staff tried to pretend he never had. >> there are many problems in life that we can't fix. >> hillary clinton's early engagement in the 2016 campaign.
>> i as a strategist am fairly floored. >> will she regret laying the groundwork -- >> she has decided to enter the public fray so quickly. >> i saw other countries take steps to increase voter participation -- >> i as a strategist am fairfully floored. >> there is no reason we cannot do the same here in america. >> moving on to the other guy. >> chris christie. >> chris christie. >> signaling he's ready for 2016 to start now. chris christie will sign a law to ban gay conversion therapy. >> ban conversion therapy. >> it's a loony loony thing. >> he's certainly already beginning -- >> new jersey governor chris christie's effort -- >> -- what looks like a presidential campaign. >> in the current republican party someone like him can't win -- >> christie has a big problem. >> the party in the northeast is shrinking almost down to nothing. >> the party is open to support. >> successful parties were r. about building great coalitions. >> moderate republicans, conservatives, libertarians and tea party. >> establishment candidate chris christie. >> are you stupid? >> libertarian republicans like
myself. >> an emergency committee of the neo cons. >> we've got to stand up and fight and win the argument. >> they see obama care as a big violation. >> a real divide within the republican party. >> successful parties are about building great coalition ppz. >> this is a party of inclusion. >> at least from the point of view of republican strategists in washington. we have breaking news tonight on the question of whether or not ted cruz is now or ever has been a canadian citizen. that question provoked a strangely indefinite response, not from cruz himself but from his staff earlier today after the "dallas morning news" reported this. "born in canada to an american mother, ted cruz became an instant u.s. citizen, but under canadian law he also became a citizen of that country the moment he was born. unless the texas republican senator formally renounces that citizenship, he will remain a
citizen of both countries, legal experts say." ted cruz released his canadian birth certificate in response to inquiries from the "dallas morning news." today ted cruz's senate press secretary released this oddly worded statement. "to our knowledge, he never had canadian citizenship." now, when a senator's staff speak for the senator says "to our knowledge," everything that follows that is a statement that everyone in that senate office knows might have to be quickly revised, and so it has been. the "washington post" is now reporting that ted cruz will renounce his canadian citizenship. cruz said, "now the dallas morning news says that i may technically have dual citizenship. assuming that is true, then sure, i will renounce any canadian citizenship. nothing against canada, but i'm
an american by birth and as a u.s. senator i believe i should be only an american because i was a u.s. citizen at birth, because i left calgary when i was 4, and have lived my entire life since then in the u.s., and because i have never taken affirmative steps to claim canadian citizenship, i assumed that was the end of the matter. given the raft of stories today about my birth certificate, it must be a slow news day." hillary clinton's political future continues to fascinate the political media, and she has done nothing to avert their -- to divert their attention to anything else about her future. >> i as a strategist am fairly floored that she has decided to enter the public fray so quickly. she can do the foundation work. she could do issue work. she could build a campaign. she could develop a message without having to be so far out front of there.
bill clinton got into because we ran primaries very late in the earlier '90s, you know, he gets in in the fall of 1991 for a 1992 election, and i would have thought that would be the path she would more appropriately -- >> and she basically -- >> that was robert gibbs on "meet the press" yesterday reacting to hillary clinton's speech last week on voting rights and reacting to chuck todd saying this. >> i am surprised in this first year that she is getting political this quickly. >> really? >> and laying the groundwork this quickly. i really thought she was going to take -- you have sky-high bipartisan approval ratings. you come off foreign policy, it's the least political of the offices to hold. why not hold on to that as long as you can? >> meanwhile, "the new york times" reports that chris christie's advisers are hoping that he can secure a decisive re-election win in november and keep on running for the 2016 republican presidential nomination. if he beats state senator barbara bono in his re-election
campaign, he will then become the chairman of the republican governors association. that's the perfect perch for a governor with presidential ambitions. presidential fever is spreading among republicans now, including defeated former massachusetts senator scott brown, who elizabeth warren sent into early retirement. brown was in iowa for its state fair this weekend. >> i'd put my national security credentials of 34 years in the military, a colonel still serving at the pentagon, and also my fiscal conservatism against anybody in the country's, put my experience in public service, business, and military against any of the people that are considering running for higher office. >> joining me now, msnbc's crystal ball, ari melber, and richard wolffe. crystal, my script about ted cruz's canadian citizenship, about 45 minutes ago, had this little thing in it about when
the staff says "to our knowledge" the clock is ticking on when that statement has to be amended. and bingo, we now have it. ted cruz admitting he's got a canadian citizenship issue that he's got to get resolved. >> lawrence, proven right once again. i have to say, though, they've got some pretty good health benefits up there in canada. he might want to hold on to those. in case he and his tea party brethren actually succeed at blowing up obama care. it certainly lays to rest any speculation that maybe he's not considering running for president. he certainly wanted to clear that up very quickly. and of course it is incredibly, incredibly delicious that the tea party savior has a birth certificate citizenship cloud over his presidential ambitions. >> and i think, ari melber, rer now on the verge of discovering just how rabid on the citizenship question the tea party types really are, just how
many of them are going to continue -- or even begin to challenge ted cruz over his canadian birth certificate even though they continued to challenge president obama over his american birth certificate long after they'd had it in their hands. >> yeah. i guess not all birther controversies are created equal. you know, and that plays to race and a lot of problems, among some of the grassroots on that side. i think that, you know, nothing against canada is a great campaign slogan. he could build on this, really make that part of his international bona fides. but i think it actually speaks to something that's happening in both parties, which is, as you just played the sound from former press secretary robert gibbs, this is by any historical standard the earliest we've seen people in both parties make these moves. it makes more sense, actually, on the republican side, where there is a vacuum and you can't be too early, where you have this competition. but with hillary clinton and joe biden both in the news this week
you see it's never too early for presidential politics for a lot of these folks. >> and richard wolffe, how do you see this issue that's developed? we saw on "meet the press" this weekend talking about the surprise that hillary clinton is so obviously and kind of openly running for president. as you know, richard, on this show panelists are not allowed to even consider the possibility that hillary is not already running. >> bear that in mind. >> does she have to make it so obvious? >> it's an interesting media reaction. what -- i mean, it seems that no one is struggling against the idea that people on the republican side can make it obvious. why is hillary clinton under some kind -- or should she be under any kind of limitation on making it obvious? >> she shouldn't be under any limitation at all. and to be fair, we're talking about world affairs and foreign policy. it's actually very different from laying the groundwork for a
national domestic political campaign, where as a clinton the world has moved on somewhat since those days when both she ran for president and her husband was president. so she does have some work to do. but going out this early does suggest that shez a little bit needier than frankly most people in the party, either at the activist level or the grassroots, ingz th think she needs to be. she has massive support. if she does indeed do what we already think she is dock, which is declare her candidacy for president, she doesn't have to prove much at all. she could do this later. she could run into less wind shear later. but as a dln clinton, as a hillary clinton especially, that wind shear is inevitable. >> crystal, is there any way for her to win on this point? if she was playing it much more coy, might there be commentators out there just infuriated she's playing it so coy? >> of course. absolutely. no matter what she did there would be scrutiny and second-guessing about it.
i think from her perspective 14e wants to make sure she's in position to win the obama coalition. i mean, we've had young people, we've had minorities show up in strong numbers two times for president obama but it's not totally clear they will be showing up the next time around for whoever the democratic president is. so i think she wants to make sure she has that coalition behind them, that she's speaking to them and cultivating them early. personally i think it's a bold move and i'm glad she's making it. >> i want to read you something the "wall street journal" reported about joe biden. political applies of vice president joe biden "have concluded that he can win the 2016 democratic presidential nomination even if hillary clinton enters the contest and are considering steps he could take to prepare for a potential candidacy." ari melber, do we have any takers for joe biden getting the nomination over hillary clinton? >> literally? as joe biden would say. i think he literally has and
trouble here for a number of reasons. and this is the part where i disagree slightly with what's been said here by my esteemed dinner panel guests. >> thank you. >> which is it is a little different when you have an incumbent president who hasn't even hit the mid-terms yet. and while hillary is now an independent private citizen and has worked hard and is free now to give speeches like the one she gave on voting rights last week at the american bar association, which was a tremendous endorsement of renewing the voting rights act and an attack on what's happening in north carolina, welcomed part of this debate, joe bidin's first and only job is the job we the taxpayers are paying for, which is serving as number 2 in the white house. so if he is personally approving these kind of stories, even though politics is politics, i've got it think some people including potentially the president feel that he ought to cool it for a little while and we don't need to contribute they might say to an environment of lame duckness. >> ari melber, i want to get to
colonel brown. that is, former senator scott brown out in iowa this weekend reminding us that he's been in the military reserves for i guess 34 years and that there's a qualification right there for being commander in chief. do rand paul and chris christie and the other hopefuls have much to worry about from colonel brown? >> well, it's too easy. i mean, i don't think there's a big appetite for massachusetts losers in the republican primaries. it was a tough sell last time. i think it's a tougher one now because he did get his clock cleaned. on important issues, by the way. on the question of populist economics and regulating the banks by elizabeth warren, as you mentioned. no, i don't think the conversation includes him in a serious way. rand paul standing for a sometimes hypocritical libertarian wing. chris christie carrily having a big personality. i don't think brown is a big
figure here. >> richard wolffe, it seems that chris christie may have already tactically decided that the paul family is condemned in republican presidential primaries to getting something like 8% of the delegates at most by kind of hanging in there and never actually winning a state but amassing a few delegates here and there. and chris christie seems to my that rand paul might be useful as someone he can play off of to show himself to be the reasonable man in the republican field. >> yeah, he might have gone through some rational tactical strategic decisions or he might have just been popping off buzz he feels like it. >> there's always that. >> i don't know how you can read that as a strategy other than the guy tacks one way one week and then he's in another one the next week. so for all of those assertions of confidence and the bombast here you have a guy who vetoes gun control one week and then
does something supposedly pro, you know, equal rights for lgbt community and the next week -- you know, the one consistency here is that he has some personal animus against the paul family. i don't know where that takes him in the sense that he is still trying to prove that he's a real conservative and at the same time prove that he's not a scary conservative. i don't think there's much rhyme or reason to it at this point other than he's obviously flirting with it and still very much wants to put his cards in there for this presidential run. >> crystal ball, ari melber, and richard wolffe, thank you all for joining me tonight. >> thanks, lawrence. coming up, lewis black is here tonight to audition, to see if he could become my john oliver. get ready for lewis black the anchorman. quick quiz. who is the reasonable one on the question of shutting down the
government? a, ted cruz? or b, rand paul? tweet your answer, and we will tell you who's right. that's coming up in the next segment. and when is a kiss a bad example for russian children? how about this case? isn't this exactly what the russian government is afraid of seeing at the olympics? that is a picture of two russian runners who won a relay race this weekend in moscow. more on the russian anti-gay laws coming up. like carpools... polly wants to know if we can pick her up. yeah, we can make room. yeah. [ male announcer ] ...office space. yes, we're loving this communal seating. it's great. [ male announcer ] the best thing to share? a data plan. at&t mobile share for business. one bucket of data for everyone on the plan, unlimited talk and text on smart phones. now, everyone's in the spirit of sharing. hey, can i borrow your boat this weekend? no. [ male announcer ] share more. save more. at&t mobile share for business. ♪
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"the dumbest idea i've ever heard of." and now rand paul says this. >> i don't think shutting down the government is a good idea. people want us to stand up and fight. i'm willing to stand up and fight. we should use the leverage of controlling 1/3 of the government. we don't control all of the government. but republicans control the house of representatives. they should stand up, use that power to at the very least make this job less bad, delay it, do something we can to protect the american public from this law. >> joining me now is msnbc political analyst steve schmidt. steve, is every debate within a political party necessarily a healthy debate? >> no. i don't know whether the debate we're having is healthy or not other than to say, lawrence, we're going to have a titanic fight inside the republican party as we approach 2016.
there are very different issues that are being offered by these candidates. very different visions. very different worldviews. libertarian approach of rand paul. you see ted cruz with his political outreach to tea party republicans. chris christie. so i just think it's going to be a knockdown fight to the nomination in this cycle and we're going to see it start very, very early. >> let's take a look at what's happening within the party now. tea party patriots running online ads against senators like lindsey graham on the issue of obama care. let's look at this one. >> senator graham, conservatives don't need a chicken when it comes to obama care. you said it yourself. well, now it's become a big f-ing mess for the democratic party and the country as a whole. avoid the mess. be a leader who will fight to defund it now. call lindsey graham and tell him if you fund it you own it. >> steve, given that this obama
care is going to be with us no matter what lindsey graham does, to have part of the republican party now saying to lindsey graham, you own this thing, that we all, including lindsey graham, want to criticize, seems like a horrible trap for the republican side here. >> no, it's not. it's a sign of dysfunction within the party. look, lawrence, one thing republicans all agree on is they don't like obama care very much. from the left of the party to the right of the party. but the reality is obama care is here to stay. there's not a plausible path offered by senator leigh, senator cruz to repeal obama care with the tactics they're proposing. you listen to ted cruz speak on this, it's like signing up for pickett's charge the day after they did the first one. this will be a political disaster for republicans. and when you see the party and interest groups, the ones that are funding the ads against lindsey graham, doing that on an
issue we all agree on, that's just a sign of problems in the party. no doubt about it. >> what do you make of the difference between senator cruz and senator rand paul over this? rand paul taking obviously the more mature view of the situation. >> well, look, i think rand paul's coming to the conclusion that you have to be able to articulate a pragmatic worldview to be taken seriously as a presidential candidate. he can't run in the exact same space that his father ran in and possibly hope to be the republican nominee. let alone win actual primary contests. so i think you're trying to see -- rand paul is trying to find ways to temper himself, to make himself look pragmatic when it comes to is this guy capable of actually being commander in chief in the eyes of republican primary voters. and i think ted cruz, it's all about the politics. if he's out there appealing to a talk radio base, this is what
they want to hear, they don't want to be told that obama care is here to stay, they don't want to be told that in fact there's nothing that can be done, the president controls the executive branch and he's never going to repeal obama care. they just don't want to hear it. so he exists in that world. he's gaining currency in that world. we'll see if it's durable as a coalition in a republican primary process where electability has always driven the ballot in a republican presidential primary. >> steve schmidt, thank you very much for joining me tonight. >> you bet. my pleasure. coming up, lewis black is here, as you now know. and as you know, lewis black has problems. many problems. and none of his biggest problems is with rick perry and rick perry's texas. that's coming up. two russian women kissed when they won a relay race this weekend in moscow. and thanks to russia's anti-gay
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in the spotlight tonight, the olympics and russia's anti-gay laws. over the weekend we had a preview of what we might be seeing during the winter olympics in russia. at the world track and field championships in moscow this weekend russia's women won a relay race. and while on the winner's podium the women shared celebratory
kisses. as the world began to wonder if russian athletes are now mounting their own public protests against russia's anti-gay laws. one of the women pictured here told "the guardian" newspaper, "it was just happiness for our team. yulia and i are both married." yesterday the russian sports minister called the continuing controversy an invented problem by the western media. "we don't have a law to bannon traditional sexual relations. the mass media in the west have focused much more on this law, more than they do in russia. we want to protect our younger generation whose physicality has not been formulated. it is a law striving to protect rights of children and not intended to deprive anybody of their private life." joining me now is david mcfarland, founder of united for equality in sports and entertainment, and jim bazinski,
co-founder of outsports.com. david, what i was struck by in that kiss, that now world famous kiss and the story around it, is that one of the women in that kiss says, look, there's nothing to be talking about here because each of us women are married to men. but if you look at exactly the same picture, say, in the olympics and neither of the women involved in a picture like that issues a statement saying that she is married to a man, what have we then in that picture? >> that's right, lawrence. you know, you make a really good point. i mean, the reality is that what we are dealing with in russia is centered around human rights, right? it's major human rights violations against our lgbt brothers and sisters.
and it's also horrific and unacceptable what's happening there. but really what's playing out in front of us and what we're talking about here in the united states and abroad is two very separate events happening simultaneously at the same time. one being human rights violations against our lgbt brothers and sisters. and it's being put on the stage in front of us centered around the olympics. and we talked about sport in general being a platform to talk about issues like this, to really create social change. and the reality is that we sort of call -- this was probably going to happen around the world championships. and it did. and so what you're seeing in front of us playing out is this overwhelming desire for people across the world, particularly athletes and our allies, to speak out against these draconian laws that have been put in place in russia. >> and jim, that picture just proves the insanity of this
russian law, because it says you can't in any way suggest to children that anything gay is okay. now, that picture was seen by children. and it was not communicated to every child who saw that picture that those -- whether those two women are married to men, whether these two women are in love with each other, and surely there will be similar pictures coming out of the olympics, and they will be -- that kind of imagery will be in violation of the russian law. >> well, i'd love if we see more of that kind of imagery. but it probably does violate their rules against homosexual propaganda because you're right, even if it was -- they inadvertently did it to celebrate they still sent the message to people that what is the context of the kiss? and until the one runner spoke about it i think everyone assumed it was a protest of the anti-gay law. but i think these kinds of protests are the kinds of things we need to see from athletes, kind of more after their events
are over because i don't expect them to do -- they don't want to risk being sanctioned by the ioc. but you know, there's kind of -- that's kind of a silent protest, but it's a very demonstrative protest. and you had an american runner who won a silver medal in the 800 meters, nick symmonds, and afterward he publicly thanked his gay and lesbian friends and family back home and he did it on russian media, which was a really powerful statement to make. >> david, jim just raises one of the delicate points here, which is the ioc's reaction to this and the possibility of the ioc actually, international olympic committee, actually trying to sanction an athlete for any expression of real love and gay love to a partner of any kind in public during these olympics. if the ioc does that, i really don't see how the ioc will be able to continue to function beyond those olympics. >> that's right. you're absolutely right,
lawrence. i mean, the reality is here that what we're beginning to see above and beyond the protests and the outcry around this issue are now, you know, motions by governments beginning to speak out. the reality is today we saw the united nations come out with a statement basically denouncing the anti-gay laws in russia. so we're going to begin to see this pressure not only from the united nations but from leaders all across the world to put pressure on the ioc and actually, quite frankly, other olympic committees across the world to deal with this issue and to deal with it in a meaningful, constructive way. >> jim mcfarland -- no, david mcfarland and jim bozinski, thank you both for joining me tonight. >> thank you, lawrence. >> my next guest is going to be
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we have breaking show business news tonight. comedy central has just rewritten the future of "the daily show." they have renewed "the daily show" for another 30 years. now, they haven't made a public announcement of that, but everyone in show business knows what comedy central executives are thinking after watching john oliver host the show for two months. they're thinking jon stewart is 50. if he stays in the chair until the mandatory late-night retirement age of 66, which was established by johnny carson, jon stewart will do another 16 years before handing it over to john oliver, who is 14 years younger than jon stewart. so then john oliver will do 14 years in the chair before he turns 66, and that gives comedy central a minimum of 30 years of "the daily show" as we know it. but it could be even more than that because david letterman is now 66 and is obviously going to
work long beyond the johnny carson retirement age. so who knows how long jon stewart will hang in there? now, let's take a fond look back at a summer's worth of work by the man who will probably be hosting "the daily show" 30 years from now, when justin bieber turns 50. >> welcome to "the daily show." i am john oliver. and let's all just acknowledge for a moment that this is weird. >> if you hadn't heard by now, jon stewart is going to be away for the summer. he's gone to a small italian village to learn how to cobble shoes. >> that is very well said, lewis. >> who the [ bleep ] are you? >> it doesn't -- it's a fair point. i apologize. carry on. >> celebrity chef paula deen is defending herself this morning
after admitting that years ago she used the n word. >> the n word? which one did she use? because i know it wasn't non-fat. boom! >> last night just we went on air, the royal baby was born. so we pushed our coverage to tonight. tonight just before showtime there was breaking news about anthony weiner's penis. so we will cover anthony weiner's penis tomorrow, which, spoiler alert, is a lot more than anthony weiner has been doing. >> and finally, we have a member of the royal family with an actual excuse for being a toothless, petulant, useless human being. that one could get me into trouble back home. >> a once proud american institution brought to its knees by gross mismanagement and incompetent leadership. you know, you wonder if it will ever again be the icon it once was. >> yeah, but i mean, look, on the other hand, sam, detroit is
resilient. it will bounce back shortly. >> detroit? no. i'm sorry. i'm talking about "the daily show." >> come on. >> jess, where exactly are you? >> i'm in front of paula deen's house, john. >> that's interesting. any developments on that story? >> oh, no. i'm actually just here looking for a job. >> what? >> because let me be clear. i'd much rather work for an old lady who's admitted to throwing the n word around than spend six more minutes working for you. >> wow. >> leave john oliver alone. you've done a heck of a job, buddy, and i'm proud of you. >> oh, rob riggle, thank you so much. have you been watching the show this summer? >> uh. no. >> there are so many things about this summer. but i'll miss you most of all, carlos danger. ♪ danger ♪ danger ♪ get on the floor >> mr. lewis black joins me next.
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. last night on a very special edition of "the last word" vampire bill compton showed us a new way of handling political scandal. telling the truth. >> joining me now is the book's author, william compton. thanks for being here, bill. >> thank you for having me. >> okay. so you're a god. >> i was a god. >> you were a god. >> yes. >> are you insane? >> not at all, no. >> because i read your book and it reads like fiction. >> well, that's what makes it such a good read. >> so it's entirely true that you walked into the governor's mansion in baton rouge, louisiana and you ripped truman burrell's head off? >> it's not like he didn't deserve it, lawrence. >> well, what can i possibly
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overregulation, and frivolous litigation, get out before you go broke. texas is calling. >> texas is calling? well, good thing i've got caller i.d. [ applause ] listen, texas, trying to steal jobs from illinois and california are one thing. but you're going to try to trash talk about new york? not on my watch! >> this is new york. the city that never sleeps. people come here from all over the world for the freedom to live as they choose. for the variety of cultures. but most of all, for the fact that it's not texas! >> joining me now is of course lewis black. his show "lewis black: old yeller" will be live at the borgata in atlantic city. you can watch it live on pay per view. lewis, when i watched the staff earlier today, i said you can
watch it live on pay per view, i said, well, you can watch it on some pay per views, which ones? and now i'm looking at this fact sheet that says this amazing thing. this will be the first ever live comedy special to air simultaneously on all cable, satellite, and telco platforms pretty much in the world. it's like every one that i've ever heard of. and i have a question for you about that, which is who did you have to know to get that to happen? and as you know, i have just paraphrased a show business form of that question. >> you did. >> where the verb rhymes with know. >> yes, exactly. >> but you know what i mean. this is impossible -- >> i don't know -- >> you got on your knees and did what to make that happen? >> i have shamed myself through the entirety of my career. and what was one more shame really for me? seriously.
and to be on in mother russia at this time of year really thrills me. >> yes, they are going to be thrilled. but listen, before we go any further, there's a new introductory question we have to have with "last word" guests. and this, by the way, is going to be the preamble to taking your oath now as united states senator. and that is, are you now or have you ever been a canadian? >> no, i'm not. i have -- i have too much of a genetic predisposition to irony and sarcasm. which is proof that -- >> well, i gather that you would rather be a canadian than a texan, which is the opposite choice that ted cruz apparently has made. >> well, no, exactly. i don't know -- there are certain places i would be a texan. but just in certain cities on certain streets. you know, that way. and also there are certain parts of canada i -- no.
you don't want to -- thunder bay is nice, but you really don't want to be a citizen of canada living in thunder bay or remote stretches of nova scotia and newfoundland. >> so about texas and your little feud, you've got a feud going here with rick perry. which i think is a combination of your attitude toward texas and what rick perry doesn't know about new york. which would you most like to instruct him on? feel free to go in any direction you want. >> i would just like -- well, actually, i'd just like to instruct him on -- i think if he's got this time off from governor, maybe to kind of go back to just -- it's not even new york. just go back to college and start over and take really another four years and let's look at the world again, rick, and this time try to memorize some stuff and pay attention in class and things like that. i mean, the fact that -- he may
run for president again. if that happens, i -- i mean, as a comedian i'm thrilled. but as a citizen i weep. >> now, speaking of college, you just gave your first commencement address and we have a little piece of it here that i want the world to take a look at. >> someone who believes since i was broke because i worked in theater till i was 40 years old, i actually believe it is, and this is going to shock some of the folks in the back, it's a privilege to pay taxes. and -- yeah! and it's not a political question, folks. because we have to pay for stuff. >> lewis, you know, i was broke. maybe not for as long but for maybe the first half of my work life. and i always said, i always kept saying, i can't wait to complain about paying taxes.
i can't wait to have to pay taxes. >> yeah. it was really like -- it was amazing to me the first time. because i used to have that short short form where they just call you up and see if you were breathing. >> right. >> and you were scraping things together. so the idea that i could finally -- you know, that they were taking money out and i was being left money and that i could actually share money, i mean, you know, i didn't help pay for the streets. i didn't help pay for the water bill. i didn't help pay for anything. so the idea that i could pay for a lot of the stuff that needs to be paid for is -- was like joyous. i mean, i don't know when people drive over bridges who they think is going to take that job to fix the bridges. what do you think, you know, that they're going to call you -- when the bridge goes they're going to call you up and say hey, bring your toolkit?
you know, you have to pay for stuff. it's beyond my comprehension. and what you don't do if you're an adult is decide that you're going to budget things through a sequester, which doesn't even have to do -- what does that word have to do with budgeting? it's like if you have a family budget and said you know, we don't know what to take out economically from the budget, so we're going to whack out protein this week. >> i want to go back to something that i learned within this hour when you were acting as my co-host, and you just kind of slipped in there. that you were actually at martin luther king's "i have a dream" speech. >> yeah. i was there. i was 14. and i'd gone down with my folks and then we kind of split up. i was supposed to meet them afterwards. what was amazing was that -- and the reason i'll never -- part of the reason i'll never forget it
is you go to one of those -- one of the first big marches i'd been to, and you walked all the way -- i could walk all the way down to the lincoln memorial. i could walk down that -- you know, down that whole stretch between, you know, the -- that was covered with people and i walked all the way -- literally was no more than 100 yards, 75 yards when he spoke. and i certainly don't -- i remember it being overwhelming. i remember it being -- i went, wow, this is different than other people speaking, this is -- i'm in the presence of something other -- i'm in the presence of greatness. i'm in the presence of someone who's speaking in a fashion that i never -- i'm in the presence of a leader. of a real leader. and a moral authority.
and it was -- as a 14-year-old it probably had a profound amount in terms of changing my life. >> lewis black gets tonight's last word. thank you very much, lewis. >> thank you, lawrence. have funyou. >> louis black, old yeller. old yeller will be -- you'll be doing it live in atlantic city on august 24th, and it really can be seen on every single pay per view system on the planet because lewis black somehow made that happen. thank you, lewis. >> thanks. chris hayes is up next. good evening from new york. i'm chris hayes. tonight on "all in," it's all-out war in the battle over the policy of racial profiling, known as stop and frisk. ben jealous of the naacp will be here in just a moment. also tonight, chris christie's wild weekend.